"There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know..." Donald Rumsfeld


Ray William Ellsworth, father and grandfather to posted researchers for this site, spent about 20 years in genealogical research before any computer could help him. Had he lived to our day when we can do so much with computers he'd be amazed at what we can do in genealogical research now. He didn't spend all his time with Diana's problem, but kept returning to it, never could "crack the code" so to speak. Any light that anyone could shine on this problem will be very much appreciated. Now, we invite you to contribute information, ideas, theories, questions to this blog. At left below see much info and suggestions of a professional genealogist.

Sunday, May 2, 2010

Diana's death between 1840 and 1841

If you'll click on this link you'll see that, according to these two deeds recorded 10 February 1840 and 12 June 1841 that Diana must have died between 1840 and 1841 (see the 9th and 10th lines down in the 2nd deed: "Diana...now deceased").  Do you now begin to see the great discrepancies that occur in considering all these clues?  (Such as that Diana refused to come West when the Saints left Nauvoo, which was 1846)

Saturday, May 1, 2010

David and family join the LDS Church

Life of Heber C Kimball, by Orson F Whitney, Bookcraft, 1945 printing, page 80.  the previous pages tell how in February of 1835 Heber C Kimball and 11 other men were ordained to be apostles in the new Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.  They were soon sent out on proselyting missions.  Two of them, Heber C Kimball and Luke S Johnson went on a 5 month mission to the Eastern United States and Canada.  On May 5th they were in Dunkirk, NY, then in the ensuing days to Sackett's Harbor, and Mendon.  By the 6th of June they were in Lyonstown...(now read page 80 by clicking on the above link).

Wednesday, April 21, 2010

From an old family document

(Click the above link)  This document was created by someone of James Henry's descendants and copied by Gay K Killian in 1960.  We don't know who wrote it, but contains some interesting information about James and his background, talents, habits and life history.  Some of it should probably be taken with "a grain of salt".  It's very interesting what it says about Diana!

Sunday, April 18, 2010

Who Diana's parents were NOT...


(Click the above link) Scroll down to pages 900, 901 and 902.  Diana's parents were NOT Nehemiah Livingston, Jr and Indiana Foster, perhaps brother and sister-in-law, but NOT her parents.  Notice that Nehemiah Livingston, Jr and Indiana Foster married in 1832, about when Diana was bearing children.  In numerous genealogical records submitted to the Family History library she is erroneously recorded as daughter of Nehemia,Jr and Indiana.

Was Diana daughter of Nehemiah Livingstone, Sr ?


(Click above link) Notice here that these people say that "Diana LIVINGSTON-1389" is Daughter of 
Nehemiah Sr, not Jr, and sister-in-law to Indiana FosterI've unsuccessfully tried to make contact with the email addresses here.  I assume that E Whitten has passed-on and that her replacement, Bonnielie Lacey,lacey@tca.net or belacey@cox.net  has changed her email addresses.  I couldn't find Kathy Herington, klhbuz@hctc either. You want to try?  

Was Diana's Maiden Name Really Herrick?

The line says: James Ellsworth Oswego  Oswego  NY  David Ellsworth  Diana Herrick... which means the name is James Ellsworth, born in Oswego, Oswego County New York,  father's name is David Ellsworth, mother's maiden name is Diana Herrick  (see 10th line down).  This is from Payson Ward records film #26401 "Record of Members, Early to 1860".  Click on pictures twice to enlarge view.  The lower picture is from the same Payson Ward book, on about page 17, Jas means James,  shows that his mother's maiden name was Diana Herrick.

Sunday, April 4, 2010

Lucinda Sophronia Ellsworth's Death Certificate

Click on her name, then use pull-down bar to see entire death certificate, then click "back" key upper-left to return here.  Notice that in item 12 her mother is "Unknown"!!